tell john boehner not to raise taxes. he'll raise them on all of us. the congress is on taxes. everything -- we shouldn't be debating this. congress should because tax bills, as you know, have to start, the constitution says, in the house of representatives. the fact that the white house is negotiating with the senate is a little bit surreal and ridiculous. >> hold on a second, mark. >> michelle, mark is right, it has to start in the house with spending or tax bills but there are two bills the house passed that are sitting in the senate. >> we ought to go over the fiscal cliff. i think we shouldn't make a deal where we're not -- we shouldn't raise taxes. we need entitlement reform, then we can talk. if there's no real entitlement reform, there's nothing we can do. democrats spend, spend, spend. now they have the bill, the fiscal cliff and they don't like the result. what are they going to do? it's time you actually put a stop -- >> we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> a case of extreme helicopter parents sued by their daughter for stalkin